Comments on: Python From The PHP Perspective http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/ Ramblings about art, education, Linux and a lot more Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:49:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Gordaen http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51230 Gordaen Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:18:56 +0000 http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51230 The advantage of the backtick method is that you don't have to know if the variable is an int or a string. I was aware of the %d, %s, etc. method, but I did not know about the tokens, so thanks for sharing that. Apparently you can use %s with non-strings just fine, so maybe that's the method of choice. Haha, I love <a href="http://xkcd.com/" rel="nofollow">xkcd</a>. I decided to actually finally go through all of the archives a month or two ago and have been keeping up via RSS since. The <em>Python in a Nutshell</em> book is great as a reference, though I find that <a href="http://www.diveintopython.org/" rel="nofollow">Dive into Python</a> has better examples in many cases (more "real world" as opposed to just demonstrating what a statement looks like). Funny that you should mention <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/" rel="nofollow">Django</a>, as that's pretty much been the reason for the change to Python at my work. Python, by itself, is not great for web projects, but Django is a very good framework. As far as installing a "personal" Python (or anything else for that matter) at Dreamhost, that's the way to go. Even installing a personal copy of PHP lets you better configure the software, but the problem is that many hosts won't let you do that. Then you're stuck with whatever version they have (if any at all). I'll likely be going to a VPS solution within the next 4 or so months, so that won't be a worry for me. It's more of a consideration for the new programmer who only wants to shell out a few bucks for some web space. The advantage of the backtick method is that you don’t have to know if the variable is an int or a string. I was aware of the %d, %s, etc. method, but I did not know about the tokens, so thanks for sharing that. Apparently you can use %s with non-strings just fine, so maybe that’s the method of choice.

Haha, I love xkcd. I decided to actually finally go through all of the archives a month or two ago and have been keeping up via RSS since.

The Python in a Nutshell book is great as a reference, though I find that Dive into Python has better examples in many cases (more “real world” as opposed to just demonstrating what a statement looks like). Funny that you should mention Django, as that’s pretty much been the reason for the change to Python at my work. Python, by itself, is not great for web projects, but Django is a very good framework.

As far as installing a “personal” Python (or anything else for that matter) at Dreamhost, that’s the way to go. Even installing a personal copy of PHP lets you better configure the software, but the problem is that many hosts won’t let you do that. Then you’re stuck with whatever version they have (if any at all). I’ll likely be going to a VPS solution within the next 4 or so months, so that won’t be a worry for me. It’s more of a consideration for the new programmer who only wants to shell out a few bucks for some web space.

]]> By: Mason http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51217 Mason Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:08:09 +0000 http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51217 Additionally (and sorry for repeatedly spamming your blog... I'm kind of replying as I read), you can install Python under your Dreamhost user account if you have issue with the version they provide. Just install from source, making sure to specify your install path during configuration. Then just make sure that directory is in your PATH, and you'll be able to soar with your own wings. Additionally (and sorry for repeatedly spamming your blog… I’m kind of replying as I read), you can install Python under your Dreamhost user account if you have issue with the version they provide. Just install from source, making sure to specify your install path during configuration. Then just make sure that directory is in your PATH, and you’ll be able to soar with your own wings.

]]> By: Mason http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51215 Mason Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:00:54 +0000 http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51215 Additionally, you may find this entertaining: http://xkcd.com/353/ I have a heavy PHP background as well... Python didn't really fascinate me until I really started exploring... Ruby lent a helping hand. If you want a super-sweet reference on all the little sweet things Python can do, pick up Python in a Nutshell. If you want a Pythonic web framework, check out Django. Holovaty and JKM just released a great reference on it. Additionally, you may find this entertaining: http://xkcd.com/353/

I have a heavy PHP background as well… Python didn’t really fascinate me until I really started exploring… Ruby lent a helping hand.

If you want a super-sweet reference on all the little sweet things Python can do, pick up Python in a Nutshell.

If you want a Pythonic web framework, check out Django. Holovaty and JKM just released a great reference on it.

]]> By: Mason http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51214 Mason Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:57:41 +0000 http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-51214 If this is messing you up: print "there are many (", x, ") parts" You could try: print "there are many (%d) parts" % x or used named tokens: tokens = {'part_count':34} print "there are many (%(part_count)) pargs" % tokens Also lends a bit to clarity. If this is messing you up:

print “there are many (”, x, “) parts”

You could try:

print “there are many (%d) parts” % x

or used named tokens:

tokens = {’part_count’:34}
print “there are many (%(part_count)) pargs” % tokens

Also lends a bit to clarity.

]]> By: Gordaen http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-50029 Gordaen Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:35:26 +0000 http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-50029 LOL! I added the pre tag so we can marvel at your awesomeness :D For anyone interested, the <a href="http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/" rel="nofollow">Python FAQ</a> has a few answers to some of my problems. Each of the answers generally is not so much of a "that's because it makes sense for the coder" answer as a "that's how it has always been" or "it's because of the way Python is implemented" answer. LOL! I added the pre tag so we can marvel at your awesomeness :D

For anyone interested, the Python FAQ has a few answers to some of my problems. Each of the answers generally is not so much of a “that’s because it makes sense for the coder” answer as a “that’s how it has always been” or “it’s because of the way Python is implemented” answer.

]]> By: Josh Schumacher http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-50015 Josh Schumacher Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:28:35 +0000 http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-50015 crap, forgot to wrap my code in a pre tag, guess it won't compile now. crap, forgot to wrap my code in a pre tag, guess it won’t compile now.

]]> By: Josh Schumacher http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-50011 Josh Schumacher Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:17:45 +0000 http://blog.gordaen.com/2007/12/13/python-from-the-php-perspective/#comment-50011 <pre> #!/usr/bin/python import sys import web from web import * import magic from magic import OCR class CodeSample: def __init__(self): myCode = magic.OCR.ReadFromWeb('http://blog.gordaen.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/recent_sites.png') print myCode </pre> #!/usr/bin/python import sys import web from web import * import magic from magic import OCR class CodeSample: def __init__(self): myCode = magic.OCR.ReadFromWeb('http://blog.gordaen.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/recent_sites.png') print myCode ]]>